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Food for thought

Postby Tom H » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:40 am

Interesting statistics. This jives with the research of Prof. Lott at the University of Chicago, who is a noted expert on gun laws and stats.

Here are some facts.

There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
3% are accidental discharge deaths.

So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).

A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So, you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”
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Re: Food for thought

Postby Bob Lowe » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:37 am

Excellent, Tom!
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Re: Food for thought

Postby Bernie Tresner » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:03 am

Amen!
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Re: Food for thought

Postby Bob Jack » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:12 pm

If your stats are correct, I still don't see why you are so frightened that you feel the need to keep a lethal weapon, after all, your stats indicate very few "bad guys" are killing people. Do you really think you will some day have to form an armed unit to overthrow the government, as it seem the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution for ( not to arm frightened souls ).
Having vented my thoughts it occurs to me that we should limit our discussion to boat topics rather than political ones.
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Re: Food for thought

Postby Tom H » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:51 am

Bob Jack, one buys life insurance not because of fear but because it is prudent to protect those that you care about. You think fear is the motivation to protect oneself, however, self reliance is really what it is about. If your home is being broken into waiting 20 minutes for the police to show up does not seem a viable option.

Armed civilians are a bulwark against a government that has turned against its citizens. The first thing Hitler did was ban and confiscate privately owned weapons. Ask the folks in Venezuela how they feel not being able to defend themselves. I know, it could never happen here....

Lastly Dock Talk was specifically made part of this site so that all reasonable topics other than just boating could be expressed. There is always the option of not reading the post. I do not post to offend anyone but to raise awareness of things that I believe are important to me. Open dialogue educates all who are interested to both sides of an issue. Have a great day and safe boating.
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Re: Food for thought

Postby Bob Jack » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:51 am

Re purpose of dock talk—point taken.
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