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Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby firstbase » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:46 pm

My salon doors need new, I guess you would call it, insulation. See pic. How to remove and replace? Where can I get the material? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:10 am

We replaced ours several years ago, I don't know if it was glued in or just had too much varnish seep into the kerf, but either way, it was not letting go easily. I had a shop get it out and don't know if they used a Fein tool, router or just a sharp blade. At the time, I was able to get replacement felt from GB through Ken Loh. But we all know how that avenue has dried up and Ken has left the company. So, I guess I am not much help. But I am attaching a photo of the profile from Ken when he was confirming what I wanted. So this is what you are looking for. Let us all know if you find any.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby firstbase » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:50 am

Thanks Ken. Besides asking here I haven't a clue where to start looking. Since it is a barbed I assume there is a kerf within the kerf so to speak where the barbs seat. That's going to be fun to get out.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:47 am

I don't think there is a secondary kerf. I recall the "barbs" just provide friction to keep the trim from easily backing out of the kerf, like a fish hook barb.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:07 am

I have found "peel and stick" felt weatherstripping at several sites, but am not convinced that would hold over time in this application as the joint is rather tight, with appreciable side-to-side friction as the door is opened and closed. But I did find the attached product. It would require routing a fresh recess over the existing kerf for installation but is screwed to the door.

http://www.randysurleymfg.com/illustrations/A82P.gif
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby firstbase » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:24 am

Thanks Ken. Do you have a link to or name of that weatherstripping? I did find a barbed product on ebay and was able to order a 3" sample. No measurements given on the listing so will have to compare when it gets here.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby firstbase » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:53 am

I did find a company that sells stripping that appears to have the profile of what I need but not sure as these may be smaller. Apparently it is called "Kerf Pile" weatherstripping. I have now found a few sites that sell this type of stripping. Here is one for the record...

http://www.amesbury.com/divisions/schlegel/parts/10

If nothing else it shows that someone somewhere is making a similar barbed product. Website says that these come in a case of 2,500ft. Need to narrow down the right product and then find 100 more boat owners to go in on it. :)
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:21 am

firstbase wrote:
> Thanks Ken. Do you have a link to or name of that weatherstripping? I did
> find a barbed product on ebay and was able to order a 3" sample. No
> measurements given on the listing so will have to compare when it gets
> here.

Sorry, I don't have anything but a link for Randy Surely Mfg. They call it a "meeting stile weatherstrip". Here is their main page:

http://www.randysurleymfg.com/weatherstripping.htm
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:24 am

firstbase wrote:
> I did find a company that sells stripping that appears to have the profile
> of what I need but not sure as these may be smaller. Apparently it is
> called "Kerf Pile" weatherstripping. I have now found a few sites
> that sell this type of stripping. Here is one for the record...
>
> http://www.amesbury.com/divisions/schlegel/parts/10
>
> If nothing else it shows that someone somewhere is making a similar barbed
> product. Website says that these come in a case of 2,500ft. Need to
> narrow down the right product and then find 100 more boat owners to go in
> on it. :)

This lookls like a much better solution, if you can find enough buyers to go in with you. :shock:
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby firstbase » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:08 am

I should market my purchase idea to those with larger boats and more doors. That way it will only take about 85 more people. Actually once I found out that this weatherstipping is called "Kerf Pile" I found quite a few manufacturers making a wide range or products that appear similar. At this point I need to pull some of the worn stripping off the door and get some measurements. I have no idea of the exact size i need. Once I have width and depth I can narrow the choices down. Found some with an aluminum base as well. I could probably make a number of them work without too much trouble. If I want to route out a new kerf there are many ways to go on it. Just curious but does anyone have a picture and or measurements of the original stripping on a 1987 era GB42'?
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby JoMeKe » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:16 pm

firstbase wrote:
>does anyone have a picture and or measurements of the
> original stripping on a 1987 era GB42'?

Sadly I only had scraps left and probably threw them out. Sorry.
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Re: Fuzzy salon door insulation

Postby wkearney99 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:38 am

firstbase wrote:
> Actually once I found out that this weatherstipping is called "Kerf Pile" I found
> quite a few manufacturers making a wide range or products that appear similar.

That's really the key sometimes, just finding out what a vendor calls a particular item.
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